Just in case you were wondering, a ‘Network Music Player’ (or an ‘Audiophile Network Music Player’, as Lumin calls the U1 Mini) is a device that finds music that’s stored on your Home Network or available from a streaming internet service via your Home Network and converts it to a … We are in year 2019 and bits is bits is archaic logic and  audiophile style reviewers should not be surprised anymore by transports playing a key role in SQ. From what I’ve read online, both are excellent streamers however the Auralic has the better power supply, and can connect over WiFi. I use another brand of App to occasionally control LUMIN from my PC for example. Depending on the recording, the SACD player can position instruments forward, bottom right or left, the U1 comes close but not quite there. I have two other devices in my system that do (to a certain extent) what the Lumin U1 does. If one can live with only iOS support, the G2 is the wiser option. Cheers! That AURALIC galvanic isolation is questionable? Less bits in the chain, the less chance of crud entering the chain. It also allows for the control of volume in the digital domain, sports a sophisticated search function, allows for high-resolution artwork from one's sources and artwork caching. At this point it is advisable to explore the app (there are no instructions that I can find for the application). The enclosure measures 350mm (13.7 inches) W X 345mm (3.16 inches) D X 60mm (2.37 inches) H, and weighs in a hefty 8 Kg (17.64 pounds). Support. I found even the U1 Mini to be sonically competitive with the much more expensive Auralic Aries G2. We won't respond.) The U1 Mini is Roon Ready. It would be cool to have a comparison review of the different streamers. (4) It's there alright. Both units are available in either a brushed silver aluminum finish or a black brushed aluminum finish. I think it is something of the Clever Hans effect we have on each other. Since the Lumin U1 is a music transport, it naturally must conform to and support the major protocols available to today's “digital audiophiles.” These include the UPnP A/V protocol with the streaming extension. > OK, I'm firmly in the “bits-is-bits” camp when it comes to talking sound quality from what is essentially a purely digital signal. Info: Lumin U1 mini. Lumin u1 mini.streamer. For the actual LUMIN Settings (things like logins for subscription services, upsampling settings, display brightness, etc) you will have to use the LUMIN App for either iOS or Android, but not necessarily for playback. b) Several users reported bugs with the on screen display artwork or other details relating to the screen on the Auralic support forum. This is in great Condition and Because I am a Lumin Dealer you have no worries. What's your point? You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Unless audio components are in air conditioned environment 24/7, dust, moisture and corrosive air (even lived close to the beach?) It is compatible with all the major services and formats including PCM from 44.1 KHz sampling rate all the way to 768 KHz and bit depths from 16 to 32-bit and DSD 512 to 22.5. Regardless, if possible, one should use AES). And of course between same class players like the dCS, Linn, Naim, sonictransporter, etc. FOR SALE: Lumin U1 mini . "The stock Lumin U1 Mini provides 60% of the performance of the U1 for 34% of the price. There is but a single button on the front which is illuminated to show that the unit is switched on. My level of certainty was much greater after such session. Lumin believes that separating the power from the signal circuitry results in better audio performance. Lumin T2 Network Music Player. The entire process from storage to digital conversion is highly dependent on precision clock in various steps. Note that when purchased directly from our Hong Kong office, you may be liable for import duty or taxes. It works so well and is so intuitive that once you use it, you'll wonder how you ever got by without it. I have had it for about 4 months. The U1 direct competitor is ARIES G2, which has lower jitter and better construction, including dual LPS driving separate circuitry boards, galvenic Isolation, suspension footspikes and a uni-chasis. Lumin (DACs and Interfaces) Lumin U1 mini Digital Transport / Streamer : Lumin U1 mini Digital Transport/Streamer Transport-only unit combines the best of LUMIN U1 and LUMIN D2 Identical processor supports DSD256 and 384khz playback Quad native clock system for precision timing Low noise shielded switching power supply 5 types of digital audio output including USB MQA Decoding … If AES3 is chosen, might get there, but the DAC accepts coax digital only. Firstly thanks for your review. Capable of upsampling and downsampling all the way from 44.1kHz to DSD128 and supporting playback o The U1 joins a growing lineup of high-end products from this Chinese-based company that includes a line of full “Network Players” that contain a Network Transport as well as a built-in DAC. And I write that with sincerity. Because even though it doesn't play discs, like a transport it plays digital files and provides a digital output to a DAC's input. Our review sample is black. When the latter is off--due to jitter or electrical pollution--the sound is off. Lumin U1 Mini is very similar to two other models by the same manufacturer; U1 and D2. The app contains a search function that allows the library to be searched in two ways: a simple “find” function or using a set of filtering criteria. Sounds great i use Spotify Connect ipgraded from bluesound node 2i & the sound stage went from flatt to depth.. nice little piece. can settle on connectors and cause corrosion. It seems odd this unit serving up bits could be responsible for the difference in sound you describe. Maybe a topic for elsewhere, but when I primarily judged sound quality using subjective listening impressions, the strength of the differences heard seemed greater when I auditioned something new with other audiophile friends present We seem to hear the same differences. But the real difference is … As for pricing, there's room to negotiate in a civil manner directly with the suppliers, the sticker price isn't the final outcome. Capable of upsampling and downsampling all the way from 44.1kHz to DSD128 and supporting playback of DSD256, LUMIN U1 MINI matches the U1 in almost every area - except price. Capable of upsampling and downsampling all the way from 44.1kHz to DSD128 and supporting playback of DSD256, LUMIN U1 MINI matches the U1 in almost every area – except price. The G2 has suspension footspikes that dampens a certain range of frequencies so the oscillators aren't disturbed. All other models have separate power supplies in their own enclosure and have dual linear voltages from two transformers for analog and digital circuits. Yes, this topic has intrigued me as to how to determine what causes a great image, but I do know what can stuff things up. USB doesn't carry any clock information, so it's up to the DAC to implement the timing. The sonic difference among AES/SPDIF/USB is very simple to explain. The Lumin U1 is a beautifully made superbly engineered “music transport.” It supports basically all formats and streaming service in use today. I personally believe clock jitter can affect imaging. The other end, I plugged into the RJ45 connector on the back of the U1. Le transport réseau Lumïn U1 mini ressemble très fortement au D2 testé sur notre site. And I would have said that the Lumin U1 would have the same sound as a NAD or a Pioneer or any other music server “client.” After all, the only thing that comes out of the device is “bits!” Well, I was wrong. A blind listening would be quite interesting. The user have to remove the existing IEC power inlet of the Lumin product, as well as the SMPS within the Lumin product (with hex screw drivers) and install this adapter kit in its place. Some gadgets or cabling improved matters, so the inference is, that the transmission from the source to the DAC contains artefacts that ruin the sound stage. It ain't so! Lumin U1 Mini is the budget version of the U1 with a more utilitarian chassis and internal power supply. DSD512 may have such a sample rate that it could mask the noise, or modulate the noise, so it's not audible? So no bits are bits logic isn't archaic. I didn't see such feet on the Lumin. Upon launching the app it connected immediately with the Lumin and the interface is so intuitive that it becomes immediately apparent what needs to be done to access one's locally stored music on one's computer or NAS (Network Attached Storage) device. We do not accept offers on used equipment that has a posted price; these items are priced according to market value and will sell. In fact, when reviewers describe the SQ of various transports, they actually describe the effect of jitter, or lack theteof. I especially appreciate a bits is bits guy acknowledging that it is not always the case, and also like seeing China come in with an audiophile-level component. Furthermore, different implementations of the digital output/input stages (transmiter/receiver) will contribute to sonic differences. A few observations: (1) I am surprised that we are still using  'bits is bits' logic to defend insignificance of digital source. It arrived snug via a pleasant woolen bag stuffed in-between two generously thick foam forms and packed in double cardboard. I connected a 50 ft CAT6 cable to my wireless router next to my main computer. The ouputs, ostensibly to a DAC, consist of two Type “A” USB connectors, a Toslink SPDIF, a gold-played RCA coaxial SPDIF, and a BNC coaxial SPDIF. The Lumin U1 Mini apparently outputs amazing sound quality; however, won’t the Denon x4500h receiver mess with the sound? T… I cannot emphasize too strongly that the app, which is available for both iOS and Android devices and downloaded from Lumin's website is de rigueur rather than optional as it is on many such devices. Lumin U1 Mini English ver. https://upscaleaudio.com › products › lumin-u1-mini-digital-transport-streamer Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead. Call 303-653-6341 to order. The U1 has full support for MQA from TIDAL, Qobuz, and Tune-in Radio. A pair of gloves, leaflet and brief manual were also found inside the box. That is the reason sound quality differs from  different digital transports. I have been using the USB output.. however all the outputs are nice and strong even the optical out. Upgrading the power supply of the U1 Mini to LPS will boost the performance close to the U1 level. If I owned one I'd be very tempted to take a band-saw to the machined CNC case top and I encourage Lumin to re-think that particular design decision. While it supports MQA on TIDAL, I don't have access to that service and therefore wasn't able to test that function, but none-the-less, the sound the U1 elicits from these ones-and-zeros is definitely a cut above many other similar devices. Like new Lumin U1 Mini in black. Which is a high technology incubation hub. Interesting what you noted about the imaging popping out more in front of the speakers when called for. I notice the same thing with the T+A DAC 8 DSD when ran in 512 DSD mode. Connecting the Lumin U1 to one's system couldn't be more straightforward. Transport-only unit combines the best of LUMIN U1 and LUMIN D2 Identical processor supports DSD256 and 384khz playback Quad native clock system for precision timing If USB output is used, the clock of the Lumin isn't used. That signal is so pure, it's 97% of what the SACD player can reproduce, including imaging. Using a new dedicated LUMIN U1 processor adds upsampling and downsampling for every supported format – all the way from 44.1kHz to DSD128 – providing maximum DAC compatibility and optimization. Network Music Library L1. Playlists can be saved and restored in case of an accidental deletion. Capable of upsampling and downsampling all the way from 44.1kHz to DSD128 and supporting playback of DSD256, LUMIN U1 MINI matches the U1 in almost every area – except price. I have an Oppo 205 and a Logitech Squeezebox Touch. Nice write up! My pre/pro is now Roon ready so the Lumin is redundant in my system. Identical processor supports DSD256 and 384khz playback. Having a cover, slows this process. How that is effected by the Lumin will depend somewhat upon the device doing the recovery at the DAC end. I was able to quickly setup a playlist containing a combination of streaming files from Qobuz (Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto #1 in B minor, Sviatoslav Richter, Herbert von Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic) and Spotify (my favorite Roy Orbison songs) and a number high resolution files from my main computer: Albinez “Iberia” and piano works from Debussy on the PlayClassics label. U1 U1 MINI. Candidates could include low end players like the Squeezebox Touch, Chromecast Audio and may be direct from a Mac Mini. Once a method is settled on the output of the U1, it stays in place unchanged for, well, years. (Don't low-ball us. I owned the Auralic Aries G2 and Lumin U1 Mini. The Lumin U1 is not cheap at close to US$6000, but it is definitely a very high performance unit. We listen to the old one and then the new one. There's nothing more to it. There are many more features of this remarkable interface, too many to list here. Anyway, the U1 at home is with me for a month now with some solid listening hours under the bridge. One I remember is getting a rather expensive for the time digital cable. Yes, you can buy a linear supply to fit out, provided the regulation is such that over voltages do not occur. The back contains but a round multi-pin connector for the umbilical to the main unit. We had been listening to the same old one the whole time. One was wondering if AES was simply better more so than the cable in use. My only real complaint is the machine case top's extreme overhang in the rear. Starting from the left, we have a small reset button, then for the input to the unit, an RJ45 jack for CAT 5 or CAT 6 Ethernet cable, then a gold-plated “earth” (ground) post. When streamed from my Mac Mini where the files are stored, they can be played through the Logitech, the Oppo or the Lumin. The bugs were on production machine released 10 months after they were officially released for sale. All other models have separate power supplies in their own enclosure and have dual linear voltages from two transformers for analog and digital circuits. While excellent through any of these devices, the Lumin seem to delineate the transients better than the other two and the pianos seem to have more “space” around them. Capabilities, otherwise seem similar and its only US$2000. The longer the cable, the more so. Works great. But for now, if you have a DAC you're very happy with, then the simplest transmission is over Ethernet to digital, which the Lumin U1 does very, very well indeed. Regular price $2,300 View. or Roon for playback control. It makes it very difficult, once the unit is installed in a system to access the rear connections. Indeed the only differences between the U1 and the U1 Mini of which I am aware, other than, of course, the size, is that the U1 has a very large external linear power supply whereas the U1 Mini’s power The U1 direct competitor is ARIES G2, which has lower jitter and better construction, including dual LPS driving separate circuitry boards, galvenic Isolation, suspension footspikes and a uni-chasis. WHY LUMIN U1 MINI Following the huge success of LUMIN D2, we decided to investigate the possibility of making the LUMIN transport technology similarly accessible. With it loaded on a tablet or a smartphone, the world of streaming music is a real joy. I then connected the umbilical cable from the PSU to the back of the Lumin, and connected a 0.5 meter XLR cable from the AES/EBU output connector on the rear of the U1 to the AES/EBU input on the Schiit Yggdrasil DAC. All these are Roon-Ready, by the way. LUMIN is fully Openhome compliant. Another further improvement over the other digital server clients that I noticed was that while the other two units threw an image that started at the speaker plane and went back beyond the wall, there was nothing forward of the speaker plane. We will meet or beat any verifiable price from an authorized dealer.*. Lumin D2 Network Music Player. Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes. I would have expected software issues like this to be well put to bed with limits (?) Or is it just some sort of distortion? Item #649671679. (4) I got a Lumin U1 Mini loaner from my dealer. Search for Lumin in the middle of this page for the whole thing. OK, I'm firmly in the “bits-is-bits” camp when it comes to talking sound quality from what is essentially a purely digital signal. I haven't seen any reference that each external PSU powers a different board. Regular price $2,200 View. The U1 is also a single block aluminium body, with footers, so don't see advantage in construction, since both are similar. 2 Amps version for Lumin U1 – Mini and Lumin D2. Lumin has created its own free App for full music control (the App also … Of course, many owners of other hardware also use the LUMIN App too. The soundstage expands in every direction, including forward, with its single bit DSD converter vs. it's traditional PCM Dac. You will soon figure out how to access TIDAL, Spotify, and Qobuz and your own locally stored music files. I hope you’ve listened to the LUMIN U1 and compared it against your current setup rather than “believing” that your setup out performs the U1 based on what you read. Sign up for a new account in our community. When auditioning USB cables of different varieties, the image tended to tank and be mono-ish, with no sparkle. Contact us for expert consultation when making any upgrades to your system. Luckily, Lumin sells a smaller unit with less expensive casework, a built-in power supply and with LPCM support to only 384 KHz instead of 768. U1 Mini streamer 12V The BOTW P&P ECO MKII 12-13V audio upgrade to improve the sound quality of your Lumin U1 Mini streamer with the Sbooster Lumin connection kit. The recordings are both first rate and with a decent system the sound is almost as if the pianos are in the room with the listener. The U1 is still current in the Lumin lineup and its performance is at a higher level than the Mini. Thank you for the clear and straightforward review. If there is a different sound via USB output, and that difference is the same over SPDIF, it becomes something odd that doesn't make very good sense in a straightforward manner. The U1 comes in two units: The main “Transport” and a separate PSU (Power Supply Unit). (The U1 benefits from a BNC output that the G2 is missing, but that's not enough to tilt the balance. (The U1 benefits from a BNC output that the G2 is missing, but that's not enough to tilt the balance. Still happy with what I hear, a substantial improvement over anything else I tried, such as: USB, ifi Micro USB, Mutec MC-3+USB, RME HDSPe AIO, USB extenders, plain USB cables, Curious USB cables, Nordost USB Cables, Mutec MC-1.2- AES3, Intona, ifi Galvanic 3.0, the list is extensive, all blown away by the Lumin U1. Allow me to relate. Yes, it's 2019. Enter the Lumin U1 Mini + Sbooster Power Supply Upscale Audio in California is not only a Lumin U1 Mini dealer, but also the USA distributor for the European Sbooster external linear power supply and Lumin Connection Kit for the Sbooster which I intended to use with the U1 mini to replace its internal switch-mode power supply. In essence, those kits reduce electrical pollution and thus jitter. Do the preout settings in the menu of the Denon x4500h really do a good job? New Lumin U1 Mini Digital Transport For Sale at Suncoast Audio, Official USA Dealer. Lumin advertises the U1 as a “Network Transport” for those audiophiles who already have a DAC with which they are satisfied. ware’, the U1 Mini is a perfect example, be-cause it uses almost exactly the same circuitry as the Lumin U1. Network Player Amplifier M1. After a half hour we wanted to hear the old one again. I then downloaded and installed the Application on my Android tablet (the app will run on most Android devices and any Apple iPad or iPhone manufactured since 2014). “I'm firmly in the “bits-is-bits” camp when it comes to talking sound quality from what is essentially a purely digital signal.”, (closing this page on my iPad and leaving the remainder of this “review” unread....at least for now), (3) Regular price $2,100 View. Product: U1 Audiophile Streaming Transport ($5,900), pricing is a problam in honk kong sell for 28500 hk$ which is 3700 us$. Both feed the Yggdrasil DAC so the only difference should be the source component. That sets it apart from AES/SPDIF, which have the clock information embedd. Upgrading the power supply of the U1 Mini to LPS will boost the performance close to the U1 level. Could you test that ? It only facilities streaming from it into the VEGA G2. Logically, if the timing between channels  is 'just there', the image from the speakers will be very good, let's say what the engineer worked out for the recording. The Lumin U1 is a beautifully made superbly engineered “music transport.” It supports basically all formats and streaming service in use today. It's easy! The unit is Roon Ready and supports TIDAL, can connect directly to Spotify, supports Apple AirPlay, gapless playback as well as the on-device playlist. The 24/96 PlayClassics files of  Albeniz' Iberia played by  Luis Grane and Angel Cabrera playing Debussy are exemplary performances of solo piano. Aside from that the unit is very well laid out in back. sBooster and Plixir sell such kits, and they'll set you back $500 to a $900--overall, much more economical than U1. The rear panel of the Lumin is rather inexplicably recessed a good 2 inches (55mm) making it unnecessarily difficult to get to when installing the U1 into one's system. There's different methods for galvanic isolation, some work, some don't. Lumin is OpenHome, UPnP compliant and Roon Ready, so you may use Linn Kazoo, Bubble DS Next, Aurdirvana, JRiver, etc. Well if the SPDIF is used the clock has to be recovered. All that for 2/3 the price. The Lumin application is the best of its type that I have encountered. The result is a DAC-less transport dressed in a fancy and very compact enclosure of (WxDxH) 300x244x60mm size and 3kg mass. Is this because it's pulling more detailed and accurate phase information out of the recording? Compared to the digital output  of the Oppo or the Logitech device, the U1 was, well, just better! You need to substantiate that assertion, or be accused at merely floating vague innuendoes. Thank you for commenting. € 378,00 To make sure the digital interface wasn't making differences where none actually exist, I re-connected all three devices via coaxial SPDIF to the DAC. The aforementioned streamer, in my opinion, is inferior to the LUMIN U1 and probably on par with the U1 Mini with S Booster - again, that’s based on my experience in my system. First impression is Wow didn’t know the built in dac of my amp could sound that good. At which point we discovered that while the new one was plugged in we didn't ever switch to it (old one was coax, and new one AES). If bits were indeed bits then the same program material would yield the same sound from each source. The Lumin U1 Mini cannot be connected into a dedicated amp directly. Warranty is then a tricky issue. It also enables the user to search both TIDAL and Qobuz catalogs directly. It has to be connected to a dac or in my case, the Denon x4500h receiver. Cet appareil a été concocté pour tous ceux qui en sont déjà équipés d'un DAC haut de gamme et souhaitent à accéder facilement à de la musique dématérialisée. Yes, many LUMIN owners use a variety of apps such as BubbleUPnP to control LUMIN. Lumin's U1 Mini in SILVER and as you can see in the photo the unit is in Great Condition. The bits are one part of the signal; the other is timing. There’s onboard Tidal, Qobuz, Spotify, TuneIn and AirPlay support while file format compatibility is wide from FLAC to WAV and many in between. When using a plain USB cable, there was hardness in the sound as well. Regarding the "mandatory use" of the Lumin app to drive the U1, it would be interesting to know if, when the unit is used as a UPnP/DLNA renderer, a non proprietary app like BubbleUPnP can drive it. 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